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Where can I see a live demo that works on mobile?

Came here to say the same thing. Easiest is just to use GitHub pages.

> If consumers are unwilling to shell out for a TV priced high enough that the manufacturer doesn't need to do things like this to earn a (decent) profit, ...

The problem is, even if the device is priced at cost plus a reasonable margin, they can make more margin by selling data that they acquire by spying. No matter the margin on the sale, there's still more money to make by selling that data. There is no upper limit that magically prevents the manufacturer from looking for other avenues to increase profit. "Premium" device priced 3x the "reasonable" price? Still more money to be made selling data.

Now, factor in the race to the bottom on selling price, and those data sales just look that much more enticing.


I get what you’re saying but the market had a choice on this, and it chose.

They wanted the “smart” tvs. Overwhelmingly. “We” chose this hellscape when we had the opportunity to say no.

So I think the person you’re replying to is kinda right. We didn’t get forced into this so much as everyone collectively said, “Yeah, that’s what I want.”


Did we actually ever have that choice?

Yeah, and it was a big window.

I suspect all the relative proportions would remain the same. And that we come to the conclusion that our definition of speed is rather arbitrary.

Specifically? Because it’s something people search for. Because it’s something people pay for. If the scammer can get you to pay for “a visit“ upfront, and never show up, they’ve made money.


But … it really should


Then you can't intercept it and server a virus instead.


Quibble: it'll run anything that runs on open source Darwin. You won't be running anything needing macOS frameworks.


No, please. It doesn’t wrap correctly on narrow mobile screens.


It seems to wrap correctly in landscape mode.


Newspapers figured out wide text lines are awful for reading some 100 years ago. We're still waiting for web designers to catch up...


Why are novels laid out the way they are? It's almost as though its not as simple as "bad for reading" but rather a feature of the content.

imo it highly depends on the medium. If your content is packed with distracting ads, flashing banners, other unrelated text from other stories, then its helpful to make the columns narrow to help you scan.

If you have a more focused experience around one passage of text, wider text lets you fit more on the page and make better use of paragraph breaks and subheadings


Video games are routinely stomping over all known rules of good user interface in the name of art. And that's okay because it's a leisure activity, and efficiency and comfort is not the goal. I suspect the same thing is true of novels - making the text physically easier to read wouldn't make the story emotionally easier to enjoy, so they intentionally choose a suboptimal text layout for aesthetic reasons.

The only two types of books I can think of that are routinely read for purposes other than leisure - dictionaries and the Bible - are usually printed in multi-column layout from what I've seen.


Cost has always been a major factor in publishing fiction. 25% fewer words per line may boost comprehension by $x% but definitely increases cost by 25%. When markets are as price sensitive as leisure, cost is a big factor in the decision. Books don’t sell on a price per printed page basis. Mainstream publishers with existing distribution contracts are especially sensitive because of print runs.

When we published a print magazine we optimized heavily to save 1% on printing costs. 25% would have been suicide. And indie magazine buyers are traditionally a lot more price flexible than mainstream book buyers.


Are a lot of novels laid out with 24-30" lines of text?


Starting sentences with “It's almost as though/if” is very annoying.


Old newspapers have overly narrow columns that make both full justification and hyphenation ugly. I don’t think we should be looking at 100-year old newspapers for inspiration. Maybe look at them and see how far we’ve come and how much improvement we have in modern printed matter.

Instead we should look at modern books. Without paying good money to use tools like InDesign, just use LaTeX with microtype together with the default margins. You will get the ideal width for text lines (about 60 to 80 characters), full justification with minimal hyphenation.


The problem with your argument is that if you look at 100 year old books and modern newspapers, you arrive at exactly the opposite conclusion - it seems we ditched full width text a long time ago and fully switched to narrow columns, and it must've been for a reason!


Narrow columns allow you to maximize the amount of stories that can be shown on the front page. Good for scanning, OK for reading.

This is a totally context-dependent decision.


*Hacker news web designers.

Many websites already have a limited text width.


Narrow columns leave more room for ads. Ads that aren't even slightly aligned with products you're interested in.


Now explain dictionaries.


Dictionaries in columns statistically reduce white space and thus reduce the page count.

Especially for the definitions that are very short, for example when they only reference a more preferred spelling or a more prominent word that has the exact meaning.


So multicolumn layout increases whitespace in newspapers but decreases it in dictionaries? Funny how it always does the exact thing needed to disprove whatever I say in this exact moment.


Well ok ... If a full width newspaper needs the whole sheet and you put columns to reduce the necessary whitespace, you would end with blank space that you can fill with more articles or ads.

You don't really want to reduce the number of sheets for your newspaper because size of the newspaper is an indicator of quality. But trimming off maybe 10% of a dictionary is worthwhile. Size of a dictionary is a quality indicator too, but the absolute production cost is more for a book so saving production costs is more pressing.


A pre-internet technology that needs more ads for products you're not even slightly interested in.


Scanability and limitations of layout technology from 100 years ago.


I wonder what you'll come up with for 21st century reprints of the Bible. Please don't say tradition.


That's easy. The columns have to be narrow enough that you can still read a full column of scripture while your éclair rests on the other half of the page. That's why a full-spread layout is referred to a "qautréclair."


Oh, so it works fine for masochists? That's good to know.


You can always reduce the font size a little so it isn't indented so far?


Each "line" of text takes 2.4 actual lines on my device (Samsung Fold). I'm not reducing my font size by 60%.


Or you can just not go out of your way to break the perfectly good text wrapping my browser already supports.


Using the internet on a mobile phone is not advised.


Yes, but for psychological, not ergonomic reasons.


It's for psychological, ergonomic, and privacy reasons.


Depends what you mean by privacy. Most computers are a lot less private than most phones, in terms of how many people can access your data.


I think that characterization is too broad to be considered accurate.


Right back at you re: browsing internet from a phone.


I just hate smart phones so much. I need to stop commenting on HN. Sorry for wasting your time.


There are two types of programming languages: those people complain about, and those no one uses.


There’s a third type of language: Python. Actual poor choice for a startup, independent of complaints.

You’ll note my complaint here is actually remarkably unique. You will rarely hear a person who is an expert in both TS and Python say definitively TS is better.

Many people who know both stacks well always maintains some kind of apples and oranges opinion about it. It’s like agnosticism.


What’s that first sentence? I can’t find the breaks.


Sure sign of llm free writing, baffling sentence construction.


Them damn gen alphas having no sense of punctuation! Back in my day, which was when Millenialism was at its heyday, we used to put commas everywhere we, well, damn, pleased!


So did Edgar Allan Poe. As a non-native speaker, it's, to say the least, a challenging read.


Honestly I'm so old that I'm not sure if this remark is satire or an actual attempt to tell me that I'm out of touch. Is writing like this considered normal now?


Not normal but some people just can't leave Reddit.


I meant it as satire, yes.


I dunno, claude generates pure linguistic puzzles in javadoc.


Funnily enough, the underlying signal is what’s nonsensical; the individual sentences are always well structured


They are not well structured. They are syntactically correct. But, if a person wrote them, you would say they are badly structured. I have seen tripple negatives and sentences that should be split into four.


Took me a few reads too. I think the intended meaning is:

"There are those who are convinced that there is more to things; they spend their time chasing that 'more' but typically don't find it. And there are those who are convinced there isn't more to things; they find themselves frustrated at the abyss."


I had 0 issue reading it. Actually that's how I write as well.


And still exert downward pressure on wages. Just by virtue of having more people in the pool.


This would only make sense if there are a finite number of possible jobs and that more jobs are never added as an economy grows.


This would be interesting data to collect - given some field F, for each immigrant that enters the workforce, what is the delta between:

* The expected marginal increase in supply, from immigrants looking for jobs in F

* The expected marginal increase in demand, from immigrants (or non-immigrants identifying an opportunity) starting companies that need experts in F

And how strongly does that delta correlate with average salary in F?


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