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a) we don't actually know what the prices will look like yet, b) what about same weights + huge context? or, same weights that you'd run on 128gb/256gb, but multiple models running for different tasks?

> And tyeah... open weight models cant compete with likes of astra yet

I think this is true, but also misses that a lot of us are just doing basic flask apps with a react front end. We don't need astra; Something sonnet 4.6 level locally is perfectly sufficient 95% of the time, and maybe 99% of the time.


> There needs to be a single wringable neck.

Does there? Could be the whole c-suite/board.


I'd settle for any number of necks. Currently, when a corporation fucks something up, breaks the law, or hurts or even kills people, there aren't consequences besides a tiny token fine and a strongly worded letter telling them to not do it again or they'll get another tiny fine and letter, and their CEO might even have to sit down in front of Congress to say a few words and look sad.

Whatever is easiest to legislate and most people agree on, as long as there is at least one wringable neck.

I feel like our legislators would never get this far. They really don’t seem to care, maybe after “their emails get hacked”, but do you find it likely for this to actually pass into law?

I think this is worth revisiting once we get some solid 3rd party numbers from the new mac studio ultras, which admittedly are a bit over $10k with a 2tb ssd + 256gb ram. I think I'd be seriously considering it if I had a $200/month subscription of some kind.

They are referencing xkcd 285: https://xkcd.com/285/

IE, please provide a citation for the claim.


What's particularly frustrating about the discontinuing of the Mini is that it really didn't sell badly, just below _expectations_. Compared to every other model of phone sold by other manufacturers, I suspect the Mini outsold all but the most popular models.

From that perspective, the discontinuation feels more like an act of embarrassment by management than the result of a rational cost/benefit analysis. Given that reportedly the Air is selling substantially worse than the Minis, and I suspect the Duo will also fail to match its internal sales target because IMO Apple _usually_* overestimates the number of buyers willing to drop $2k+ for personal purchases (lots of corporations are willing to buy laptops for $2k+, but I suspect that almost all AVP/iPhone purchases are direct to consumer), I wonder if Ternus be willing to adopt a strategy that will keep profitable products around even if they don't meet their target. I suspect this is sort of an effect of the predictors being in some kind of high income bubble where _everyone_ they know has enough cash to drop $3500 to try out an AVP.

I had a Mini 12 and upgrade every 3 years, so I didn't bother with a mini 13. I ended up buying a base 15 and hoping that I wouldn't mind it, but my regret has only gotten stronger over time.

* Exception: they have dramatically underestimated the number of people wanting to buy high ram minis/studios for local AI.


> I suspect that almost all AVP/iPhone purchases are direct to consumer

I have worked for multiple companies that provide iPhones to employees, but neither of them would budget for the newest best version, unlike with the macbook pros. Companies know that if they buy devs computers with more ram and a bigger high resolution screen, we will get more done, but the main reason to provide a top end iPhone is as a perk.

Might be different with the Duo because I can see an argument for it being a better productivity device for people who need to send a lot of emails from a mobile.


> a competent DOJ

The question answers itself.


I think there's a strong consensus that the idea of an "AI art scene" is a misnomer. There's an AI slop scene, and some of the prompters sure do call themselves artists.


Consensus among whom? AI is a tool, that can be used differently and AI art is well-recognized, admired and exhibited the same way as any other art forms.

Is someone selling their impressionist paintings today on a fair more an artist than someone who has put equivalent or more effort in creating prompts, references, final renders, image curation and postprocessing etc? The latter may at least have more audience.


>AI art is well-recognized

I disagree with this assertion. I don't think it's at all well-recognized, and in fact derided and shunned by the general public.

> Is someone selling their impressionist paintings today on a fair more an artist than someone who has put equivalent or more effort in creating prompts, references, final renders, image curation and postprocessing etc?

Emphatically, yes. Considering the latter is not an artist at all.


By that logic collages and photography aren't art. Composition of human ideas regardless of the tool or medium is itself art.


Please review the above comments. I have not made a single statement that leads to exluding either of those. My comments did not seek to define art, or the artistic process, only to exclude a specific category of media.


Well, that‘s your subjective opinion. In 1860s people like you rejected impressionism.

Meanwhile:

https://www.art-magazine.ai/program

note some nice venues in the list.


> Alphabet needs to be broken up. Chrome, Search, Android need to be separate companies.

As well as youtube, and the combination of google drive/docs.


YouTube really could hold up as its own company these days.


It was a better platform when it was its own company back in the day.


That's so long ago I honestly can't see that being true. It used to be a funny home video hosting platform in those days. The quality of content you can get on youtube these days is incredible.


Okay, Google bought YouTube earlier than I remembered (2006). For some reason, I remembered the purchase being somewhere around 2009-2012.

So, if I may change my opinion, early YouTube was better, despite being owned by Google. I feel like the platform has been atrocious in the last decade or more. Constant clickbait, a new NordVPN or Raid Shadow Legends ad every 15 minutes, politics being injected into every other video, creators trying to game the algorithm to escape the rat race, the obnoxious algorithm itself, and now I am getting an absurd amount of LLM generated videos.

I would not dare claim there is not great content though. I am listening to a YouTube video as I type this. Though, I have been listening this particular creator since 2006, if that tells you anything.

Nevertheless, I cannot help but feel YouTube is just getting the slow squeeze of death -- like everything Google wraps its tentacles around.


The LLM scripts has been a plague but I don't think that's Google pushing it, it's youtubers optimizing to create the most minutes of video as quickly as possible.

Paying for views is both why we have high quality content, and why the site is so gamed.


Really? I don't remember it from back then, but right now must be better in terms of the content available, the player (not the shorts one; that's awful), automatically generated subtitles with transcripts that can be searched, automated translation, dubbing, etc.


I would enjoy automatically generated subtitles more if they weren't wrong about 10% of the time.

I constantly get something like "Today, we are going to discuss which model is better at programming. Is it an tropic's latest model, Cloud Fable? Or is it, Open AI's Chat G pity?"

It's as though Google hired my dyslexic ass to write the subtitles. It trips me up even more because I can't tell if I misread something or the chat messed up sometimes.

I cannot comment on translation or dubbing. English is the only language I can somewhat understand.


I'd like to nominate, Amazon marketplace, Amazon Ads and AWS to be separate as well please. ;)


> The underlying product, the model keeps improving and therefore increases its value.

I think this is true, but a customer's willingness to spend is based on _perceieved_ value, not actual value. For many companies, the _perceived_ value of AI has been trending down as internal projects fail and cost skyrocket, even as models on paper improve.


And the Open Weight models keep improving.

For many tasks, you don’t need a frontier model.


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